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Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 18:55:00 -
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Looking for some good vet/experienced player advice. I am running level 3's easy now, really enjoy it- But I have heard a lot of hugabaloo about lvl 4's. I'm a little hesitant to spend 200 mil on a nice BS with drones and get my arse blown up. I ain't made of isk..yet
Ill be getting a dominix and would like some input on which fittings to never leave home without- and how to conterract the ecm stuff I've been reading about.
any input is nice and will be considered.
As a new pilot, im sure there are many things I am missing or haven't thought of.
thanks in advance |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:11:00 -
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come on people, im at work all day and need some info! drop by, say hai! something? |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:14:00 -
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Thanks Batelle. Can you clarify a mobile depot? ill evelopedia it too. I just like to get player's explanations and POV's. eve search is a bit dry and makes assumtions that you know what you're doing. but roger that on getting used to it on the lvl 3's |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 19:21:00 -
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logic principle3 wrote:The dominix has an awesome bonus to drone optimal range. If you combine this with any sentry that is not a garde you have incredible range projection (you just need to use the right damage type as you are no longer using the top DPS drone). You can theoretically push a curator into hitting above 100km, which is the 3rd shortest range drone.
With that in mind, you really do not have to fit an incredible tank and you can still not have much of a concern of blowing up. How to do this? - May I point you toward the MJD.
[Dominix, New Setup 3] Large Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Co-Processor II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Large Micro Jump Drive Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Omnidirectional Tracking Link II Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Dual 250mm Railgun II, Spike L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Spike L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Spike L Dual 250mm Railgun II, Spike L Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Drone Scope Chip I Large Sentry Damage Augmentor I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Bouncer II x5
GREAT THANKS ! there is a lot of info here that I wasn't aware of- I will EFT that fit and see what it looks like. Some of these items ive never even heard of, thank you for taking the time to post so I have a starting point to do some research!
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Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 20:06:00 -
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all this info is mind blowing and super useful- thanks for taking the time to help a noob-
Question about the ranges- WTH would I be doing at 50k-90k distance? just drone damage or are there Large rails that actually shoot that far? ill be researching but on my BC using rails- im only at like 30-40 k--- im assuming ammo type and skills will play in to this? |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.09 21:00:00 -
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ok thanks folks, this is a good amount of information to start with-- appreciated |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.10 17:16:00 -
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This info is blowing my mind- Im thankful for those that have posted- I will start my research on these fittings and take the info into consideration--- im not so nervous anymore :) |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:01:00 -
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Everyone's input on this has been amazing for me (whether in the grand scheme it is the best advice- we won't put that to judgement) because It has brought to light situations that I wouldn't have thought of. My main issue now is that I am no where near being able to get the t2 stuff that most of you have posted- as of right now 90% of the fittings are a t1...it will be weeks before I can get into t2...BUT ill try out my boat on l3's and get used to how she handles-
another question if you don't mind...for starters id lilke to not be switching out guns/drones/fittings- so as far as drones go-- what is the benefit of a sentry drone over heavy attack- is it just the armor? they can take a beating? thanks! |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:18:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:If you just start out doing L4s in a Domi and safety is your primary concern, you might consider fitting 2 Large Armor Reppers and a couple of Cap Rechargers. That should give you enough tank for virtually anything that could go wrong. Just don-Št perma-run both them  In fact, consider the second one purely an emergency system. Once you are comfortable with running L4s and find that you don-Št need the second LAR, switch it out (as well as a few of the cap rechargers) for more damage mods. Something like the fits listed above. DPS tank best tank, after all. Also, a Domi (or Navy Domi) can be shield fitted too for awesome DPS but that requires very goods skills.
+1
thanks- safety is key for me right now as I build up my isk from blowing 1/2 of it on the dom/fittings :) |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:19:00 -
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:Ezra Blade Blade wrote:Everyone's input on this has been amazing for me (whether in the grand scheme it is the best advice- we won't put that to judgement) because It has brought to light situations that I wouldn't have thought of. My main issue now is that I am no where near being able to get the t2 stuff that most of you have posted- as of right now 90% of the fittings are a t1...it will be weeks before I can get into t2...BUT ill try out my boat on l3's and get used to how she handles-
another question if you don't mind...for starters id lilke to not be switching out guns/drones/fittings- so as far as drones go-- what is the benefit of a sentry drone over heavy attack- is it just the armor? they can take a beating? thanks! sentry do instant damage, where heavy combat drones are slow and have to travel between targets. tank fit it rat specific else u need a higher slot amount for tank in my experience. guns meta 4 and u wont need to switch them normaly. t2 in tank is the most important i would say. but weapon support is directly afterwards.
sorry for the ignorance on this- sentrys-- they just hang out and snipe baddies then? and they don't use ammo is what I am hearing too. |
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Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:27:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Yep, that's right, drones don't require ammo. Neither do T1 lasers. This is why Amarr drone ships are very cost effective.
Usually, on a dedicated drone boat (which is, like, 90% of everything I own) I'll use that extra high slot for a small/medium remote armor repair module. That way I don't even have to pay for my drone repairs, and I can repair them between rooms without having to dock-up first.
Yeah, I'm that cheap. I LIKE THIS! someone else posted this idea too-- props |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:53:00 -
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Centis Adjani wrote:The benefit of sentry is - they draw more damage and they own more tank. Here is a discussion regarding Heavy drones vs. sentry drones: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=33050But - to survive Level 4 missions is not only a thing of tank and damage! You can do Level 4's in a Battlecruiser, of you know how to handle the mission... So to know about the mission, which resistances to fit, which ammo to load, which ship is Trigger for the next wave of NPC - this is the way to survive. Even in a ship which is fitted with T1 stuff. Refer to this site for detailed Information about each mission: Eve SurvivalThe name of the site says all...
roger that- ill be looking that up |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.15 20:55:00 -
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And since you all are so kind to keep up with my annoying questions- will I be changing out my charges (hybrid) often for damage/distance? im lookin to get max range but these tungsten charges are the suck for damage- but they give me good range --im assuming as my skill get better for range-- I can move to a more powerful charge? SPIKE is not an option as of now |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:24:00 -
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Ok - so im limping through level 3's- I can do a lvl 3 faster with my BC- Drone damage seems extremely weak compared to my hobgoblin 2's (really expensive to lose those) damage modifiers on medium an dlarge drones are laughable- why are they so low? i'll have sentries trained by tomorrow- but still t1
2 x cap recharger 1 MJD MWD f-90 positional sensor subroutines
2x drone link augmentor 1 4 x 425 mm prototype gauss
3x DDA II 2x beta reactor control 1x large armor rep 1 1x Energized adaptive nano membrane 1
---experimenting with medium and heavy drones--- nothing that shines yet
I know this setup needs help-- but remember, im still t1 on most things-- training everything drones right now |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:27:00 -
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Jeanne-Luise Argenau wrote:Ezra Blade Blade wrote:Ok - so im limping through level 3's- I can do a lvl 3 faster with my BC- Drone damage seems extremely weak compared to my hobgoblin 2's (really expensive to lose those) damage modifiers on medium an dlarge drones are laughable- why are they so low? i'll have sentries trained by tomorrow- but still t1
2 x cap recharger 1 MJD MWD f-90 positional sensor subroutines
2x drone link augmentor 1 4 x 425 mm prototype gauss
3x DDA II 2x beta reactor control 1x large armor rep 1 1x Energized adaptive nano membrane 1
---experimenting with medium and heavy drones--- nothing that shines yet
I know this setup needs help-- but remember, im still t1 on most things-- training everything drones right now my personal opinion to that fitting is its pretty bad. I linked a domi fit i would prefer before. But to get it straight your drone control range is to low (with Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing 5 only 100km). Get rid of your guns (only fit them when u have spare) and fit more dla. I would max use 1 flight of small drones rest sentries because Domi is specced for sentries. EDIT: i stated my personal opinion u can ofcourse fly it anyway u like and u feel good with it ^^
Thanks for being honest but not berating me- I know the fit is bad, but I cant get anywhere near the gear that has been posted so far- so im piece-mealing at this time- Ill look at your fit again and get the cheaper modules of what you show |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:30:00 -
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Quote: One of the best things about eve is discovering how to fit your ship, mainly through trial and error. It also depends on your tactics.
I wouldn't put both a MJD and a MWD on the domi because you can pretty much MJD up to safety then MJD straight to the gate (bearing in mind its 2 mins until you can use it again). Thats what I do in DED complexes.
With sentries (when you get them) you will need Omni Directional links to make sure you can hit stuff so you don't really need the Cap Rechargers. You will have to manage the cap carefully, the range tank you get with a domi reduces the ammount of damage you receive.
In the Lows I use damage specific armour Hardeners which you can change depending on the rats you are facing.
Even though you can't use tech 2 yet, meta 4 modules are probably the most useful for you.
Thanks man- I am readjusting now! You all have been great- thanks for taking the time to walk me through it. Experimenting I know is part of it- but also still somewhat limited by my skills at this point.
sentry training finished this morning- now to go buy them and give em a whirl! |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:34:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:remember to use the compare tool for any mods you are unsure of, there are some surprising examples where the lower meta modules are better and cheaper than their t2 counterparts, there's a sticky devoted to listing them in ships & modules.
AWESOME! I never knew of a compare tool...but I've clicked on everything and right clicked and double clicked and click click boomed and have yet to see a compare tool--- can you help me find it? or is it a different program |

Ezra Blade Blade
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:16:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:neocom panel on the left , i think it starts life near the bottom if you haven't moved stuff around when you click on it, you get a tab with two pretty empty (baring some prompt txt) windows, drag module icons (ccp are making this possible from almost anywhere in the ui) into the window on the right you can compare a number of modules by any attributes they share. you can use this to get some surprisingly good fits out of relatively cheap modules. its also great for finding which faction mods are actually worth using and which are for magpies.
Edit: seriously, finding this thing was a MASSIVE help for my ability to fit ships. it should also save you a fair bit of isk,time and effort
....This changes my life! Thanks for taking the time to post this!!!!! Everyone needs to know about this- ! |
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